What's to be said about a game like Thursday night's?
The Eagles fell behind 10-0 early to the still-in-the-playoff-hunt Cincinnati Bengals. Then, powered by a rejuvenated defensive line, they fought back admirably, scoring 13 unanswered points.
But even that reversal of fortune only turned two fumble recoveries into six points. The defense continued to play well, but its effort was rendered moot by an unprecedented comedy of errors in the third quarter.
Between the offense and the always-undependable special teams, the Eagles turned the ball over four times on five plays. That is nearly impossible to do, but this 2012 Eagles team is capable of remarkable futility. The Bengals capitalized on the shortened field position, and by the time it was over, they had crafted a blowout win, 34-13.
Foles played only fairly, but it was difficult to adequately grade him; the offense rarely had the ball in the second half amid its turnovers. Bryce Brown was extremely unproductive for a second straight game. He did not get good blocking from the offensive line, but he also fumbled yet again. He has to be in the doghouse—so far.
A young player who has looked very good lately is DE Brandon Graham. With two-and-a-half sacks last night, he now has four takedowns in his last three games in an expanded role after Jason Babin was jettisoned. Graham was the lone bright spot on a very dark night.
Watching this team, one gets the feeling it is just broken. It finally figures out the defensive line problems, netting a season-high six sacks—and the outcome is no different. Any Eagles fan that was worried about a late-season winning streak allowing Coach Reid to keep his job need not fear after the latest chapter in the embarrassing book authored by this 2012 Eagles team.
The atmosphere at the Linc is now depressing, especially when contrasted with the rabid energy that has existed there in seasons past during late-season games. The PA system was back to normal levels tonight. Management did not have to worry about drowning out boos because the fans no longer care enough to bother booing.
Eagles fans right now should be enjoying meaningful games, watching the scoreboard, rooting while their team fights for the division lead. Instead, every Eagles fan is wishing for the season to be over. It is a sad turn of events.
We can only go up from here. The first step is hiring the right coach to lead this team back to respectability. Right now, they are a laughingstock.
Phil McConkey
11:56 am on Friday, December 14, 2012
my belly hurts from laughing so hard last night!
Mike Diviney
2:43 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
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Porterincollingswood
12:10 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Good news, Andy just took full responsibility. Vows to get better.
Now that that's solved, when do we extend his contract?
Sean McCullen
12:27 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Well, it's about time! We've all known for years he had to a better job getting his players in the right positions. At least he's finally admitting it. :)
What a joke! He has to go NOW!
Matt Skoufalos
12:56 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
I have the headline written for when they fire him:
"THE TIME IS YOURS."
Will give away to DN for free.
Porterincollingswood
1:21 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
I could be convinced to part with any of those guys if the draft pick is high enough.
Specifically Jackson. Guys like him - Mike Wallace in Pitt - have been figured out. They just run deep routes and can be taken away. Is a decoy like that valuable? Sure. Are they worth tens of millions? Probably not. Damaris Johnson could fill that role.
Maclin increasingly looks like just a solid WR, nothing overly special.
I also found out that we can cut Vick with NO cap penalty if he's released within 3 days of the Super Bowl. That's automatic.
Mike Diviney
2:44 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
The real question is who is going to be hired as the next coach? I've heard a lot of candidates thrown around- now Saban is the flavor of the day
Matt Skoufalos
9:14 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
Saban's a weasel who didn't work out with the Dolphins and would bolt to the next college gig if he felt threatened.
Jack Walden
12:44 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Hard to believe that a team could get this bad in so shorter time. The constantly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Last night's game was an awful exhibition to watch. Once coveted Eagles tickets can't even be given away. We can only hope there is thorough house cleaning before the next season begins.
Porterincollingswood
1:01 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Jack, I really believe that most of it comes down to preparation, gameplan, playcalling, and focus. They are the Singletary 49ers, with strong leadership they can bounce back in a few seasons. I am not seeing a total rebuild here. Yet.
I see talent out there on offense - a promising QB, a situational HR back (Brown, not an every down one unless he can get stop fumbling) and guys who will return from injury in 2013 (Peters, Jackson, Celek, McCoy).
On defense we may (sample is small) have a good DL when they run a real NFL defensive system under an actual NFL-caliber coach. I hope Ryans comes back fully healed next season, that achilles is a 2 year injury and he's at 3/4 speed.
We need to fix the secondary - led Namdi go, sign DRC if that can be done for a reasonable price, and address CB and S in the draft. Another OLB to bookend with Kendricks.
Sean McCullen
1:09 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
I agree with most of what you say, Porter. The turnovers, penalties and lack of determination are on the coach. For sure. There is some talent. Still, I part ways with a lot of these talented Reid guys. I'd let Celek go. I'd let Desean or Maclin (not both) go, too. Cole can go. And, of course, pay Nnamdi his $4M to NOT play.
Mike Diviney
2:45 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
I saw a half-empty stadium last night for a December Eagles home game- sad sight to see. They need a complete overhaul- NOW
Mike Diviney
2:48 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Porter, I don't think most of the problem is scheme. It's chemistry. We have a bad mix and it'll take time to fix. Sample too small to tell, but the D does look better. Agree with your opinion on DRC/Nnamdi/draft needs. Demeco has been their best defensive player this entire season.
Porterincollingswood
2:35 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012
Honestly, the personnel was put together like a fantasy football team. I know that sounds like a cliche, but I agree that NO thought was given to how these guys would fit together.
Not ready to trash Howie, an easy target for many, because I did see a very strong 2012 draft class.
And this is why it is an awful idea to have coaches at one place for so long. Sooner or later they (understandably) go into "win now" mode. Guys like Reid know the clock is ticking. Guys like Parcells in Miami know they're close to retirement. These guys can't be expected to build for a future they won't be a part of. So they fill the team with mercs and don't emphasize building through the draft. And it sets the team back years.
Mike Diviney
2:50 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Turnovers and lack of determination is more on the players than the the coach (especially turnovers). EIther way, only way to change the broken culture is to change coaches. He signed his pink slip with the bad decisions regarding his staff more than anything else. I'd keep Cole, but I agree DJack is very expendable. Unfortunately, I think the NFL knows that too and he won't bring much value back.
Bo
3:25 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Bruce Arians would be a great hire for the birds, in a short time he has developed two young QBs, big ben and luck, into two of the best in the league. He dealt with a the situation in Indy this season, which I think few coaches could have dealt with and had the same degree of success. The colts had how many wins last season? How are the Steelers performing on offense this season, without him. He is hands down the coach of the year, and I now wonder why he has been overlooked for so long.
Mike Diviney
2:37 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
He's done a good job Bo, but he's 60 years old. The fact that he's been overlooked for so long should tell you something. I'm not saying he's not an option, I would just prefer someone younger.
Phil McConkey
3:54 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Bo - I think that's a good idea. He's also from PA I think. I would think the Colts would bump up his salary though as to keep some continuity with Luck.
Also I do like Foles. Still think you need to draft a mid to late rounder as a just in case or maybe sign a FA but no one seems like a good fit? http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?y=2013
Bo
4:50 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Sure but I imagine the Colts wouldn't bump his salary high enough as a coordinator, then the Eagles could as their head coach. I think the scheme and approach he uses is simple and is flexible to the QB leading it. Your right Phil we do need to draft a QB, but I think we already have our back-up in Trent Edwards. The little I saw of him during the preseason there was nothing not to like about him being a solid veteran back-up. He's only thirty, that said he has had a problem throwing INTs in the past, but didn't throw a single one during the preseason.
Larry O'Doyle
9:33 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Every team in the NFL has SOME talent on their roster, but we won't be competing for a Super Bowl next year with this bunch. Demeco is solid but he rarely makes any "splash" plays just like the rest of his comrades. Colt Anderson played well last night so maybe he could serve as a Jim Leonhard type safety next year provided they find a substantial upgrade for Nate Allen. They should not make any long-term deals with current players this offseason including DRC. Time to rebuild not retool. Hire a real GM (Polian), let him hire a coach, turn over the roster and aim for SB in 2014. Maclin is soft, Jackson is soft and already slowing down, Celek is tired. This team is pathetic.
Bo
1:40 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012
I like Polian also and think that is exactly how the process should work if done correctly, but I gotta gut feeling that Howie Roseman isn't going anywhere and he'll have a strong voice in who the next coach is. This is the same pretzel logic that was used to hire a d-line coach before a coordinator.
Mike Diviney
2:44 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
I would sign DRC. Polian would have to be hired as Pres of Football Operations. Lurie's not gonna eat the 4 yr extension he gave Roseman. They have some pieces and hopefully an NFL caliber coach and coaching staff can provide some cohesion, but I don't see a quick turnaround here- hope I'm wrong. Maclin is soft, but I'd keep him. Jackson has little impact anymore. Celek is a soldier but he gets the sh!t beat out of him. They need 2 safeties, a corner and a real coach.
Mike Diviney
2:38 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
Agree on Howie, but I would hire Polian in a second and make Howie his subordinate, like he is with Reid.
Bo
11:15 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
Mike such statements about the secondary and current TE, you've just warmed my heart, heck I am almost speechless, as these are the exact things I've said to you however long ago and you didn't entirely agree. You've seen the light! I agree with you in bringing DRC back, but only if the price isn't over the moon. I think he'll get some serious offers, considering his position. I think CB Dee Milliner, which I mentioned previously, you'd draft and plug in instantly at strong safety. You'll see here where Alabama uses him frequently and successfully against the run. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/futures/2012/futures-alabama-cb-dee-milliner
I can't help but think that Polian may balk at an Eagles offer, if he can't bring in his own guy as the next GM. He spent his last few years in Indy trying to groom his son for the job, and I sense this is something the Colts owner was never on board with, and part of the reason he was let go. It wasn't just the one bad season.
Mike Diviney
11:30 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
Yes Bo, you're the only one who know anything about football. You're the great sooth-sayer than I need to learn about football from- give me a BREAK! Your repeated attempts at self-aggrandizement indicate a deep-seated inferiority complex. Plus, it's condescending and annoying my friend. I welcome your more conversational posts in the future. I have NO interest in drafting a 198 POUND CB and putting him at SS in the NFL- NONE.
Bo
11:40 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
No, No I say such with love and jest, for sure you very well could have been right and I wrong, and I didn't meant for it to come out that way. You know I love talking football with you and respect the hell out of you knowledge.
Bo
11:45 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
I was dead wrong about DRC when we spoke about my disfavor of him, late in the preseason, and have now changed my tune. He is the first priority of the offseason, well other than the obivious.
Mike Diviney
11:33 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
I agree with you on Trent Edwards. He's not a full-time starter but he hasn't done anything in the very limited scope we've seen him to indicate he's anything other than a competent veteran backup. That's not to say he won't look worse the more we see him, but he seems fine for now.
Mike Diviney
11:54 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
Thx Bo- me too. I want a big hard-hitting safety. Coleman has a lot of heart and I'd keep as a special teamer. I think we both thought Nate Allen might improve this year because he was healthy. Turns out, he sucks. DRC shouldn't have needed Andy to chew him out to play better- I think that's what he's paid for. However, he did show what he can do. Look at the other guy who was chewed out, right on the other side of the field- Nnamdi. That guy has no professional pride and can't cover ANYONE!
Bo
12:07 am on Monday, December 17, 2012
Exactly how I feel in a new situation with a different coaching staff DRC will continue to mature as a player. I think there were enough signs of such during this season to believe that to be true. I think Andy did him a favor by chewing him out, and he obiviously responded better to it than Nnamdi, who I still think is one of the, if not the smartest guy in the entire league. That is why his horrible play these past two season is so befuddling.
Mike Diviney
1:56 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012
He exacerbates his poor play with his attitude. He doesn't take any responsibility for it. In fact, he doesn't even seem to realize it. He was talking last week about how tough he was for coming back in the 2nd half after getting "injured" in the first- by falling down. We would've better off if he stayed in the locker room as he continued to get burned when he returned. DRC's mind drifts- keep on him and challenge him and his talent will shine.
Bo
1:09 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Check out this clip of Deion fawning over him at the pro bowl 2 years ago on NFL network. Deion told him he was hands down the best CB in the league. Nnamdi talks about his acting career, and many more classic comments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA_DbKlOD80
Mike Diviney
4:14 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Oh man, no more of this guy. Go be an actor because you sure aren't a football player anymore. Somehow, we got him just as he hit a HUGE wall.
Bo
5:07 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Yeah right, my question is why hasn't he acted like a football player these past two seasons. I love it when he talks about the undisciplined play of his fellow Raiders in that clip. The topper is when he reminds the viewer that he once was a safety, and familiar with different zone coverages and the responsibilities others in the secondary depending on coverage.
Mike Diviney
11:02 pm on Thursday, December 20, 2012
That's great- so ironic. In addition to his inept play, he's had more instances of confusion leading to opponent's wide open TD's than any safety I've ever seen. I'm sure it's not just him, but he's supposed to be the man. That said, he's always the guy chasing the guy as he scores. Julio Jones ran a go route and blew by him. When he shied away from contact a couple weeks ago at the goal line and was caught clearly on tape doing so, that was it for me- he's gotta go!